Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Killing of Usama Nadeem Satti

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 06:35, 15 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Killing of Usama Nadeem Satti[edit]

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References and web search don't indicate this rises above routine coverage. Star Garnet (talk) 17:24, 1 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions. Star Garnet (talk) 17:24, 1 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. Star Garnet (talk) 17:24, 1 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Pakistan-related deletion discussions. Star Garnet (talk) 17:24, 1 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Dawn have a full article on it, it's a notable event reported on by credible press. CT55555 (talk) 00:41, 3 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- WP:MILL, WP:NOTNEWS, WP:PRIMARYNEWS. Star Garnet (talk) 01:53, 3 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  - To expand: On a world-scale, the media covers thousands of murders/killings/unnatural deaths at a high level of detail annually. It is not WP's place to compile that information, or even the few hundred that were covered most closely. Wikinews, sure. The four articles I nominated for deletion after browsing through the 30-odd 2021 murder/killing/death of X articles fall short of the others in level of news analysis and impact on outside events (I'm also skeptical of plenty of the others, but I could at least see a competent argument for them meeting at least one of the WP:EVENTCRITERIA). While they certainly received signicant coverage in the media, that is in the form of news reports. We don't have the secondary sources to satisfy SIGCOV. Could this incident gain notability through a book, law, or otherwise? Sure, in the way that some of today's paintings may get articles in 40 years. But until they have gained that secondary coverage, these are WP:NOTMEMORIAL material. Star Garnet (talk) 16:30, 3 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as this is not simply a "killing", it is an extra-judicial killing by police/security forces that has provoked a good deal of protest in Pakistan, as well as evidence of a police cover-up. It is also interesting to have this article to compare with similar article concerning police involved killings in other countries. This article has a number of lines of development apparent in the sources that are not yet covered in the article. The current article content does not determine notability. Also, possible future coverage should be considered. Existing reports indicate there is more to come in this story, so it should be allowed to develop. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 08:08, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, as it is well sourced, but the article does need more expanding. Davidgoodheart (talk) 04:44, 6 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: For more time for policy based input
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Star Mississippi 00:06, 9 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Pakistan has an illustrious history of brazen extra-judicial executions and this event is not an outlier. That being said, I can easily argue this article to run afoul of NOTNEWS but rather than suggesting deletion, will request a merge to Encounter killings in Pakistan once it is created. TrangaBellam (talk) 06:45, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.